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Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please?

Posted by ohdearme 
Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please?
May 20, 2022 07:25PM
Hello everyone

I have looked up the spelling of an A minor 13th: A - C – E - G (dominant 7th) - B- D -F#. Yet the 13th, the F is not
sharpened in the key of A minor (Harmonic version of the scale,)

Why F#?

I’m going wrong somewhere- can’t work it out.

Regards
Re: Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please?
May 23, 2022 05:35PM
Anybody? Please?
Re: Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please?
May 31, 2022 07:52AM
Righto then.
Re: Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please?
July 02, 2022 06:43AM
Hi; to put it very broadly, the reason for augmented 13th is that otherwise it would make an (perfect) 4th interval to the minor 3rd: that is, C-F; this interval would yield a weakened relation regarding the tonal (minor) centre, that is, A-E. By augmenting F, the A minor chord gets a dissonant interval within , a tritone interval (augmented fourth): C-F#, so in this case the chord inherits a dissonance comparable to, ley's say, a major-7th; therefore, enabling the analysis of the extended chord as in the case of, say, an either minor on major seventh chord. So some questions arise: what is the effect of going onto a Maj7 chord instead of going onto a perfect one; for instance, say, going from CMajor onto FMaj7 vs from CMajor onto FMajor (perfect)? Greetings



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/2022 08:34AM by Athair. (view changes)
Re: Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please?
September 03, 2022 07:58PM
Hello Athair.

Your explanation needed me to try it all out on the keyboard and it's all clear to me now.

Many thanks, keep well.

Alan
Re: Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please?
September 03, 2022 08:11PM
Re: Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please.

I sent you a private message as the computer thinks my message is a bot.

Regards

Alan
Re: Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please?
September 04, 2022 07:41AM
Glad to know it helped! Keep making questions as you find doubts around some subject; from time to time is worthwhile trying to manage so as to come with some explanation about something; greetings!
Re: Why is there an F# in the Aminor 13th chord please?
September 19, 2022 10:33AM
Thank you.
Alan
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